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Q: Desktop picture of German Shepherd dogs and a cat?
I used to have a desktop image of several german shepherd dogs all sitting down and watching a cat walk past them. I seem to have deleted the image file. If anyone knows where i can download it, please let me know. Thanks a lot.

A: “Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death…”

http://www.shepherdstation.com/files/dogncat1.jpg

Q: German Shepherds. At what age do German shepherd dogs start to show protective traits?
My 10 month old pure breed german shepherd is more of a walmart greeter than protective or territorial. He will let anyone in our house, and acts more like a lab, than a shepherd. Comparitive to our 2 year old female who is very protective of our family and home. Is there a certain age when the puppies grow up, and become more protective? Both dogs are in correction based classes, submit easily, and display good obedience. Totally different temperment.
Thanks all. My intentions are not to have a dog trained in protection or bite work. I just want a good old family dog. I was just wondering when will they become more aware of strangers, etc…. We did not get our first dog as a puppy. Currently this dog doesn’t bark, unless in play.

The correction classes are just the type we are going to. You are right, this dog submits well, and has no need for correction. Unlike our first dog that had aggression issues. I just did not want to sound like a push over that has never owned shepherds before. They are a strong breed. They need to be socialized and worked at an early age to nurture a sound temperament.

I truly believe all dogs need to be trained with a confident attitude, but a gentle hand.

A: It really depends on the specific dog. We’ve had 6 Shepherds (in increments of 1-2 at a time) throughout my life. Our current two include one female who started being protective after maybe a year. The other one, a male, is going on 4 and has nothing but “play” on the brain (a complete goofball). He’s definitely the walmart greeter. The protective ones tend to be more of the alpha dogs.

Q: Is it true that German Shepherd dogs are NOT a pure breed?
I heard that German Shepherds were mixed many years ago in Germany. If they were mixed, does anyone know what dogs were mixed to make a German Shepherd?

A: Pretty much all dogs where mixed along time ago for a purpose, and that they can look the same and behave the same way, to fit a standard. In Karlsruhe, Germany, Captian Max von Stephanitz and other dedicated breeders produced a responsive, obedient, and handsome German Shepherd using long-haired, short-haired, and wire-haired local herding and farm dogs from Wurtemberg, Thurginia, and Bavaria. The dogs were presented at Hanover in 1882, and the short-haired variety was first presented in Berlin in 1889. In April 1899, von Stephanitz registered a dog named Horan as the first Deutsche Schäferhunde, which means German Shepherd Dog in English. Until 1915, both long-haired and wire-haired varieties were shown. Today, in most countries, only the short coat is recognized for show purposes. The first GSD was shown in America in 1907 and the breed was recognized by the AKC in 1908. The German Shepherd dogs used in movies Rin-Tin-Tin and Strongheart brought a lot of attention to the breed making it very popular.

That the difference between a German Shepherd asnd say a Designer mutt such as Labradoodle, labradoodles were original bred in australia by guide dog breeder to create an low allergy guide dog but they found this trial failed, one the dogs shedded, and 2, there temperment wasn’t suited to guide dog work, the one mix the got through-was a shedding dog

Mutts are not bred for any purpose other then Money hungry puppy farms and backyard breeder

Q: Do American breeders of German Shepherd Dogs still breed the working line?
I noticed that a lot of our police departments get their working German Shepherd Dogs (GSD) from Europe. Come to think of it, I can’t recall hearing any K-9 unit getting a working GSD bred in the USA. Do we not breed the working line of the breed anymore? It just seems very strange to me.

A: We probably don’t breed the best of the best, and Germany probably does

And then there are places like this:
http://www.gillsgermanshepherds.com/
that get dogs from Germany, breed them, and train the puppies for the police force… I don’t know if you would still consider that “german bred”

Q: How old do you have to be to learn shultzen dog training. Are there better dogs than German shepherd dogs?
Where do you buy good German shepherd dogs for working and how much are they? Are there schools that let 15yr olds learn about training dogs or do you wait until you graduate?

A: That you have to ask proves that you are not yet a candidate.

The first step is to actually TRAIN a dog – of any breed – to a competitive level. Doesn’t matter whether the competition is Agility or Companion Trials or Obedience Tests or Tracking – each has its peculiarities, but what they do is demonstrate whether you have the patience & consistency required, plus the observational ability required to interpret a dog’s behaviour and know when to teach, when to command, when to distract.

For DogSport itself, the first step is obtain a calm, intelligent-trainable, agile pooch – weakness of character will eliminate it from the “courage” section, weakness of body will eliminate it form the physical section, weakness of intelligence/trainability will eliminate it from just about everything in the 3 sections. Basically, unless both its parents have Breed Survey Classification (BS.Cl.1 or 2 in English, KKl.I or II in German), a litter’s chances of producing correct GSDs with HGH and SchutzHund potential are small.
The second step is to join a DogSport club and obtain BH (BegleiterHund) with your pet – see http://www.worldclassgsd.com/Schutzhund/BH_Schutzhund.htm

Only after that – and after your dog’s body has matured enough (usually 15-18 months old) will you be allowed to start on the advanced mental & physical activities – see http://germanshepherddog.com/schutzhund/index.htm – but there are many confidence-building and reliability-improving activities that can be used before that.

Now wash your filthy mouth out with battery acid! As if there could POSSIBLY be a better dog than a GSD!
However, the GSD is not intended to be the best at much – being “The Best” requires exaggeration of particular shapes & qualities that suit that ONE thing. You don’t expect to see a tennis champion being also a boxing champion and a weightlifting champion and a pole-vault champion. The GSD is intended to be a specialist at the boundary patrolling method of sheep tending, and one of the 3 or 4 best at just about everything else. Its only rival is the Belgian Shepherd Dog – not surprising, seeing as both breeds were developed at the same time (1891-1911) to perform the same tasks on opposite sides of the River Maas! Sadly, show-is-all and pet-is-all breeders have been focussing on ruining the GSD for much longer than they have been trying to ruin the BSD – especially in Britain, Canada, the USofA. But in both breeds you will find excellence and you will find unworthy crap.

To ask your GSD questions, join some of the 400+ YahooGroups dedicated to various aspects of living with GSDs. Each group’s Home page tells you which aspects they like to discuss, and how active they are. Unlike YA, they are set up so that you can have an ongoing discussion with follow-up questions for clarification. Most allow you to include photos.
Les P, owner of GSD_Friendly: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GSD_Friendly
“In GSDs” as of 1967

Q: What do you think of german shepherd dogs?
ok, i want to get a dog soon, and i’m thinking of getting a little (puppy) german shepherd. I know these dogs are smart and that’s why i like them, the question is:
1. How loyal/dangerous can they get?
2. How does it treat kids?

A: German Shepherds can be the most vicious dogs ever OR they can be snuggly “lap dogs”. It all depends how you raise them, and this goes for any breed. Socialization at an early age is extremely important for a German Shepherd. You NEED to get them out and around as many different things as you can while they are young or they will become fearful when they are older.

How they treat kids all goes along with how you raise them again. If they are around kids when they are young they should have no problems with them when they are older. If they are not around kids at a young age, they may still just love kids or they may never like them. Some things you can break and get them used to, some things you can’t. So make sure you socialize him/her to everyone and everything possible! Going to training classes are a wonderful way to do this! You will meet new people, dogs, and be around new places plus you will have a better behaved dog!

I love German Shepherds, but they are not a breed for everyone. Make sure you are able to give them the exercise they need or they will get bored and destroy things in your house. Do your research before you are sure about getting one.

Q: Hip dysplasia common in German Shepherd mix dogs?
I know that canine hip dysplasia is common in German Shepherd dogs but what about in German Shepherd mixes?

Also, what does it look like?

A: Before you get too carried away with that “I know that canine hip dysplasia is common in German Shepherd dogs” idea I’ll point out that the last time I had any pups develop hip dysplasia was in a litter born in 1983 – and THAT litter wasn’t planned by me, it was a “present” from a young dog-pup who was allowed to run with his mother because he was too small to mate her and too young to be fertile anyway. Yeah, right……

Hip dysplasia is a problem in all largish breeds – I forget the figures, but something like all breeds where the pups weigh more than 15 lbs at 5 months old.
● It is worse in bloodlines where the breeders cannot be bothered using the xray & progeny testing schemes, so just go ahead and do matings.
And none of the OFA-like “category” schemes have been effective at seriously reducing HD – only the German ZWs (a “quotient” scheme where the risk is rated as more or less than 100) and the BIF-scoring (rating 9 aspects of each hip, with a final total from 0=perfect to 106) used in Britain, Australia & New Zealand are effective at providing early warning as to whether your own bloodline is improving or deteriorating in its hips – but the biggest thing about both schemes is that a dog’s OWN hips are not the main thing, what counts is the hips of the whole family for ZWs, the hips of the progeny for BIF Progeny Charts.
● It is worse in individuals that are fed to grow very quickly and be heavy at a young age.
● It is worse in individuals that spend most of their time restricted so that they cannot develop firm muscles & ligaments.
● It is worse in individuals that are required to undertake high impact exercise from a young age.

Next thing to accept is that, although there were thoughts (about 40 years ago) of HD being due to a single dominant with variable penetration, it is now accepted that it is polygenic, with every allele for HD being recessive. That means that a pooch can have one copy of every “bad” allele but be unaffected because it is protected by the “good” allele in each gene-pair; however, it will have a match for whatever “bad” allele its mating partners have, and so produce a relatively high proportion of dysplastics, some of which will be VERY badly affected.

Because the GSD is – deservedly – a highly popular breed, it is found in more homes than all except 2-4 other breeds. In places with inadequate dog control regulations (such as not encouraging neutering – the best such encouragement I can think of is to have a high licensing fee for “entires” but a minimal fee for “neuters”) many of those GSDs will be the result of “Oh look – our dogs LIKE each other!” matings and “I’ve got a dog and a b.itch, so I’m going to sell lots of pups” matings. Such litters do NOT come from parents with certificates to prove that they & the grandparents are of low risk for hip dysplasia and elbow dysplasia, so naturally the “bad” alleles have a better chance of being passed on in them than they do in litters where the breeder has xrayed and uses only parents with certified-low-risk joints.
But don’t blame that on the BREED – it is the fault of the low-lifes who call themselves “breeders” and produce to satisfy a cheapskate market where buyers deserve every problem that turns up (sadly, in most cases it is the dogs that will suffer, not the easy-come-easy-go buyers).
If St.Bernards (BIF 17) and Bull Mastiffs (BIF 21) and Bulldogs (BIF 70) were as popular as GSDs (BIF 11) you would be accusing THEM re HD. Remembering that 0 is perfect, you might be interested in seeing breed averages for several breeds scored the BIF way: http://www.vets.org.nz/NZVA/QAPs/Dysplasia/hip/AveScores26Jan07.pdf

Okay, within a breed some individuals are better than others, but some worse. What do you think the odds are of the owner of a well-bred low-risk stud and the owner of a well-bred low-risk brood allowing their pooch to mate with a pooch of a different breed? Pretty low, eh!

So a GSD-crossbreed is unlikely to inherit the best genes from either parental breed, unlikely to have come from high-quality low-risk parents.
Of course, size as a puppy being important to how risky an individual is for HD, letting a GSD stud mate a Chihuahua brood should be pretty safe against HD. However, there is a thing called patella luxation that rarely affects large breeds but is very common in small breeds….. So you COULD be leaping from the frying pan into the stewpot, eh!

As for “what it looks like”… . Leave that for a trained radiologist. You can NOT “see” HD any more than you “see” panosteitis or lung cancer or bowel cancer. Even seeing its EFFECTS is chancy – our first brood turned out to have almost no hips, yet she passed all the physical tests that were being considered back in pre-HD-scheme days – she even leaped 7-8 feet vertically to come into the house through a window open above her pen. And there are other conditions that can mimic the effects of HD.
But if you want to learn about HD, click: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_GSD_Source/links/Diseases_001198817153/Hip_Dysplasia_001198817326/ and get stuck in – there is at least one xray photo in there, too.
Les P, owner of GSD_Friendly: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GSD_Friendly
“In GSDs” as of 1967

Q: What do you think of German Shepherd Dogs?
I was just wondering what people’s general views of German Shepherd Dogs are? Thanks!

A: My favorite animal!
I love the breed so much. When I was little my dad used to tell me stories about his German shepherd dog, so I’ve loved the breed almost all my life. They are such noble and intelligent animals. One day i hope to own one myself.

Q: What are the ups and downs of German Shepherd Dogs?
I’m looking for a good family dog, and I really want a German Shepherd. I have done extensive research, and I need to know some things from people who have them.

A: If you had REALLY done “extensive research” you would never have asked here.

• You would have attended training classes and competitions – agility, companion trials, DogSport, obedience tests, rally-o – and talked to the people who had finished in the ring.
• You would have joined your nearest GSD club and gone along to its club events, mixing with the dogs & owners.
• You would have joined some of the 300+ YahooGroups dedicated to various aspects of living with GSDs, and read their messages plus asked your questions there.
• If there are sheep farms within range, you would have checked to see whether they use German Shepherd Dogs or Collies on their farm, and arranged to visit any who use GSDs.

THOSE are the places to see and ask about GSDs.

And when you have a question, ask it SPECIFICALLY – not your vague “I need to know some things”. WHAT “things”????

And before you decide to get a GSD you need to
(1) Know what a GSD is – despite registration as GSDs, none of AlsatiOns nor German Crouchers nor NAmerican Ski-Slope Dogs nor Prick-Eared Bassets are genuine GSDs, they are untypical deviations. http://www.leabashiba.com/fashion.vs.GSD.htm will help you see some of the deviations plus some true GSDs.
(2) Make sure you have a door that opens straight into a yard fenced to not just keep your pet home but to also keep stray dogs and stray brats OUT. I prefer people to have a roofed security run in that yard, but not everyone needs one.
(3) Make sure you know a training club that you can get into from when your pup is 18 weeks onwards. There you will be instructed on how to improve your technique, and your pup will learn to pay attention regardless of what other dogs & people are doing.
(4) Make sure you know how to tell the difference between (a) a dedicated & knowledgeable breeder and (b) the trash end of the market:- pet shops, puppy mills, ignorant BYBs, con-artist sales-women – where allergies, elbow dysplasia, epilepsy, hip dysplasia, mega-oesaphagus, panosteitis, etc are rife.

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_GSD_Source is a reference site you should use once you have a GSD.
Les P, owner of GSD_Friendly: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GSD_Friendly
“In GSDs” as of 1967

Q: Do Labradors and German Shepherd dogs tend to get on ok?
Due to some ‘family issues’ we are getting a 12 week old German Shepherd Dog. We already have an 8 month old Golden Labrador Dog. As a ‘general rule’ will this work? Will they get on ok or fight like crazy… Im curious as to what we have let ourselves in for. They are both males.

A: It just depends on your dogs temperament! all dogs are different.
Just try them out and wait and see. Don’t shove your German Shepard in your Labradors face. Let them slowly greet!

Q: Why are show breeders producing German Shepherd Dogs with deformed hind legs?
I saw a German Shepherd at the Eukanuba dog show, the best of breed dog, whose hind legs were fixed in a permanently flexed position. His back was extremely sloped, giving him a hyena-ish look and his trot was awkward. As this was the Best of Breed dog, I assume that this is what all the AKC breeders are trying to produce. What’s happening?

A: No, [Jessica] – that’s a vague rebel document arrogantly invented by ever-so-independent Yanks. Brits & Canucks also independently invented rebel “Standards”. None have any right to do so.
The Deutsche Schäferhund (real name of the GSD) is a GERMAN breed. Its Standard is discussed & approved internationally by the WUSV (World Union of GSD Clubs, with 77 member nations – GSDCA & USCA are voting members; USCA accepts the WUSV’s democratic decisions, GSDCAmerica ignores them). The 2009 Conference made Langstockhaars a separate variety of GSD, but that’s not yet in FCI#166: http://www.fci.be/uploaded_files/166A1991_en.doc

A standing GSD should have:
Neck no higher than 45°; croup at 22½°.
Shoulder-blade & its upper-arm each at close to 45°, forming just a little wider than a right-angle around the shoulder-joint.
Rear-most hock vertical, with that foot 50mm/2″ from the tail-root, causing a 120° angle around each of heel & knee on that side.
The other rear pad is best under the hip socket, causing a 90° angle around that knee.
The ONLY part of the GSDCAmerica’s Illustrated Standard worth having is http://www.gsdca.org/Noframes/standard/Illo22.htm showing the 3 stance positions in which a GSD’s hind-quarters can be judged. Yanks can’t read their own rebel Standard!

GSDs do NOT “stalk” – canines run prey to exhaustion. No ” ’stalked’ position” for a GSD.
Nor do GSDs have a “dramatic slope of the thighs and back”.
I have no idea what “dramatic slope of the thighs” means, but the BACK is 5 near-level bones; the top-line is to end in a croup angled at 22½° from level.

[alika163]: I recognise 6 deviations from GSDs: AlsatiOns, German Crouchers, NAmerican Ski-Slope Dogs, Prick-Eared Bassets, Teeth-on-Feet, Titanic Tail-Tuckers. You’ll see some plus some real GSDs in http://www.leabashiba.com/fashion.vs.GSD.htm .
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_GSD_Source/links/Defining_a_GSD_001261993982/ tells the MANY things Germans and lovers of genuine GSDs require before breeding from what The KC, AKC, CKC etc register as “GSDs” without checking more than (1) Is the right fee enclosed? (2) Are both alleged-parents in the GSD Registry? (3) Is the name applied-for still available?

[Arggg]: It doesn’t CAUSE HD. But people who don’t need a pooch to trot for 14 hours, to leap over walls, nor to win beyond 2-3 years old, can ‘forgive’ hip dysplasia if it doesn’t really hurt the dog yet.( A stud can sire via AI, and owners don’t feel the 20 lbs pregnancy adds to what a brood must support…)

No, [gsdluvr] – it is excessive OVER-angulation. Mechanically, the knee must by HIGHER than the heel to create an enduring, apparently effortless gait. A GSD’s hock must NEVER touch the ground.

[Carrie]:
Blame professionalism & commercialism.
• Professional judges place what ringsides approve of – that way a judge expects to be popular. Popular judges get lots of judging fees. Unpopular judges get appointments only when a popular judge has to drop out at the last minute.
• Commercial breeders need winners in their litters’ pedigrees, so buyers will pay exorbitant prices. So they exhibit what judges are putting up. To a large degree that means having a dog “like the rest, but different in some way” so it will catch the judge’s eye. One pro handler in a line-up where any of 5 champion dogs could have won caught the judge’s eye by posing his dog facing left instead of right
• Pro handlers need wins so clients willingly pay high fees. In the USofA booklets detail what each judge “likes” and “who he put up”. Pro handlers look at the appointments list well-ahead & work out where “he” has the best chance of winning the most classes then advises clients which dogs to enter where.

At SV-type shows judges have the pedigrees & BS Reports (including information on hip & elbow scores and training qualifications), and before being allowed into that weekend’s show ring adult exhibits have to FIRST prove adequate courage & trainability by performing the “bail, escort & stop” so-called man-work from SchH (it’s also part of HGH).
Canucks wanting GSDs must patronise GSSCC, not CKC or GSDCC.
Yanks wanting GSDs must patronise USCA & WDA, not AKC or GSDCAmerica.

SV judges are currently under orders to heavily penalise (including eviction from the ring) for oversize, for weak hocks.

• To ask about GSDs, join some of the 400+ YahooGroups dedicated to various aspects of living with GSDs. Each group’s Home page tells you which aspects they like to discuss, and how active they are. Unlike YA, they are set up so that you can have an ongoing discussion with follow-up questions for clarification. Most allow you to include photos.
Les P, owner of GSD_Friendly: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GSD_Friendly
“In GSDs” as of 1967

Q: How would you get a German Shepherd Dogs ear to stand up if he’s over 1 year old?
I just got a german shepherd dog and his ears are down… like he’s never had them standing up (floppy eared). Can I do anything to get his ears to stand up?

A: [KoAusie]:
Where do you get the idea that ear erection is as simple as “a recessive gene”?
The cross done between a GSD and a Basset, from which an F1 brother and sister were mated together to produce a 7-pup F2 generation, showed that the GSD’s ears did NOT appear in either Filial generation. But if erect ear-carriage were a simple dominant in a Mendelian dominant vs recessive situation, at least half the F1 pups would have had erect ears. The experiment was reported on by Stockard in 1941, and the material is held by the Wistar Institute, Philadelphia. A 3-generation photo of the pooches is published on pg.63 of “Genetics for Dog Breeders” by Frederick Hutt.
I consider that the situation is genetically complex, involving alleles for curvature of the shells, height of the shells, width of the shell bases, position on the skull, distance between the ears, thickness of the “leathers”, development of the facial muscles, and overall health.

[Emma]:
The dog I had to put to sleep yesterday (just before he turned 12½ years) had had drop ears for years. But they weren’t genetic – he had perfect ears for his first 3-5 years, but then he developed an ear infection and overnight kicked haematomas into the ears, making them too heavy to raise. HE didn’t care that his ears flopped!
Also look at how many breeds are REQUIRED to have drop ears.

The only way your pet would erect his ears after the age of 9-10 months is if he had been unhealthy previously and suddenly that health problem was cleared up.
There are 2 surgical methods to achieve erection of flop ears – but don’t be such a barbarian as to consider either of them! He is what he is.

Get yourself into a training class so that you get help at becoming an effective trainer and learn to bring out his intelligence. He is not a breeding specimen, not a show speciment (if he were either, you would be asking his breeder, not the mostly-kids here). But he doesn’t need to be either in order to be a great pal. Nor to compete in Agility, Companion Trials, Flyball, Obedience Tests, Rally-O.

As you won’t have any guarantee from the breeder as to his genetic health, one that supplies compensation if any of the genetic “unthinkables” afflicts him, take out comprehensive veterinary insurance.

And this is the wrong place to ask about GSDs.
Join some of the 300+ YahooGroups dedicated to various aspects of living with GSDs. Each group’s Home page tells you which aspects they like to discuss, and how active they are.
Les P, owner of GSD_Friendly: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GSD_Friendly
“In GSDs” as of 1967

Q: Whats your veiw on German Shepherd dogs?
A german Shephard dog,anyone have one?
What are they like as family pets?
Who believes in having a dog if you have children?
How many German Shepards do you have?
Is it a cross or full KC Pedigree?
Whats best a cross german shepherd or a pedigree german shepherd?
How much would you pay for one?

A: i grew up with them, and only money is keeping me from having one at this point in time (next year when study is over… i will get another one).

As family pets they are one of the best dogs period.

let me get something out of the way, and qualify that statement with “as long as it is trained properly, socialised properly, and comes from a lineage with good temprament”. ANY dog is a predator, with teeth, mouths, and instincts to bring down animals, generally bigger than themselves. without training and assessment of their temprement, it’s like handing a gun to a complete stranger and trusting them.

So back to your questions. If you want a cuddly lap dog, they probably aren’t the right dog for you. a labradore fits the bill. if you want a dog that will have your unwavering attention and play for hours at a time with the same stick… probably better getting a collie/kelpie type dog.

if you want a dog that will protect you and your family with it’s life. a dog that will greet you at the door, and happily be at your side anytime day or night, that puts your family above it’s own life, and a loving, LOYAL intellegent companion, you cannot go past them. yes they will play, and they will cuddle… but they are happiest at your side (the pack leader) scanning the horizon for dangers to your pack (family), and relish the praise and satisfaction of completing the tasks you give it (which is why they are used by most police forces throughout the world. they simply have a biological drive to please the pack leader by doing meaningful tasks).

i don’t believe having a dog with children is the issue… i believe that children growing up without a dog is a form of child abuse. keep sensible about it, and train both, and you’ll never have a problem (i’m pretty sure dogs kill less people than bees). if you’ve got a toddler, then control the interaction with the dog. make it lie down, and then get the kid to pat it etc. once they get a bit older, then supervise the interaction, but let them play. once the kid gets old enough to not be bowled over by an enthusiastic dog, then if you’ve raised them right, and trained the dog right, i’d trust a dog with kids more than i’d trust a police officer, teacher, or priest.

on the subject of crosses. while some crosses are brilliant (i.e. my bro’s husky/ labradore cross), in this instance i would get a pedegree dog. because the lineage is relatively young (bred first in 1890’s) the gene pool is pretty shallow, so they have their fair share of issues. things like hip and elbow displacia. a pedigree will establish that the line has a lower than average chance of these faults. a cross breed could be fine, or it could be from bad stock. plus i think this is one breed that you don’t want to dilute their “character”.

There are generally two directions the lines have taken. the “traditional” line, with the sloped back, and the “working” line, which generally don’t have the sloped back, and have more “well rounded” hips (think malamute shape).

Unless your planning on showing it, i’d go towards the working line (the same line that police and search and rescue dogs are taken from). they have less hip problems (the sloping back aggrivates the hips), and are bred for intelegence. show dogs are bred for form before intelegence not that show dogs will be dumb, just that the less intelegent ones are allowed to slip between the cracks, whereas only the most intelegent of the working line are bred from.

Q: If 2 white German Shepherd Dogs mated and had puppies would all the puppies be white?
I heard that they will all come out black and brown the real German shepherd dog color. and only 2 brown and black German shepherds can make a white German shepherd???
So again if two white German shepherds bred and had babies what color would the pups be all white or all brown or black or what?

A: Probably mixed, white is a genetic mutation, you can’t show a white shepherd and it does not breed true.
It also usually comes with eye problems, no reputable breeder would ever breed white shepherds on purpose.

Q: At what age do German shepherd dogs start to urinate with their legs lifted?
around how many months will my german shepherd start to urintae with his leg up… his currently 9 weeks old.

A: I’m not sure exactly how long it takes. I know every dog is different but it will happen. I use to wonder the same thing. Its like a proud papa waiting for there son to show his man hood. Dont worry it happen. Then you have to deal with him tagging everything in the house.

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